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james4
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Posted: 05 Feb 2007
is anybody from here,do you know any good sites of these areas,not just for vipera berus but all of our reptiles.cheers.
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Alex2
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Posted: 05 Feb 2007

[QUOTE=james4]is anybody from here,do you know any good sites of these areas,not just for vipera berus but all of our reptiles.cheers. [/QUOTE]

Hi James,

I think it's against forum policy to give out specific locations (for obvious reasons), did you have any luck with your local ARG?.

Cheers, Alex.


james4
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Posted: 06 Feb 2007
no,no reply.

cant you pm them me,i wont disturb them.

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Alex2
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Posted: 06 Feb 2007

[QUOTE=james4]no,no reply.

cant you pm them me,i wont disturb them.
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I'm not familiar with your neck of the woods I'm afraid James, so can't offer help there...Dorset's my stamping ground (for want of a better term on an Adder thread!), so get out and get looking, several species have already shown their faces this year :)


james4
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Posted: 06 Feb 2007
yes i will,but i snowed up here today so they woont be out again for some time.
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herpetologic2
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Posted: 07 Feb 2007

 

James where are you and which ARG did you email?


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james4
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Posted: 07 Feb 2007
i emailed the merseyside one,im in merseyside.
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Judderman62
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008
[QUOTE=Alex2]

[QUOTE=james4]is anybody from here,do you know any good sites of these areas,not just for vipera berus but all of our reptiles.cheers. [/QUOTE]

Hi James,

I think it's against forum policy to give out specific locations (for obvious reasons), did you have any luck with your local ARG?.

Cheers, Alex.

[/QUOTE]

For obvious reasons ?  I'm clearly a bit slow 

I imagine it's in case the person reading is interested in harming Adders ?  or is there another reason.

I also would love to see an adder in the wild (be quite nice to see any snake in the wild really - but an adder would be great).

I am in the Northern Part of Greater Manchester - would anyone be happy to give a general pointer/area and pref PM me with more specifics and also give any hints on best times of year/day and other tips for maximising chances of seeing one.

I believe some parts of Derbyshire have populations - that's be great as it is such a lovely area too.

I also like the idea of Photographing one but being a class 1 wimp wonder how close you can get to one before it gets a tad irritated ?

Is it easy enough to get close enough to get the adder filling a reasonable amount of the frame ?

Thanks in advance to all and what a great site 

Thanks

Judderman


herpetologic2
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Posted: 01 Feb 2008

Hi Judderman

I suggest you contact Chris Monk at Derbyshire ARG or David Orchard at the ARG of South Lancasshire (+Greater Manchester)

  • Derbyshire Chris Monk, Derbyshire Amphibian & Reptile Group, Hilburn, Chapel Lane, Middleton, Matlock, Derbyshire DE4 4NF , 01629 823136/01629 580000, chris.monk*derbyshire.gov.uk
  • Lancashire and Greater Manchester David Orchard, Amphibian and Reptile Group of South Lancashire, 106 Thicketford Road, Tonge Moor, Bolton, BL2 2LU, argsl*btinternet.com

I would suggest you link up with these guys as they can show you the sites etc

check out www.arguk.org aswell

 

J


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Judderman62
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Posted: 02 Feb 2008
[QUOTE=herpetologic2]

Hi Judderman

I suggest you contact Chris Monk at Derbyshire ARG or David Orchard at the ARG of South Lancasshire (+Greater Manchester)

  • Derbyshire Chris Monk, Derbyshire Amphibian & Reptile Group, Hilburn, Chapel Lane, Middleton, Matlock, Derbyshire DE4 4NF , 01629 823136/01629 580000, chris.monk*derbyshire.gov.uk
  • Lancashire and Greater Manchester David Orchard, Amphibian and Reptile Group of South Lancashire, 106 Thicketford Road, Tonge Moor, Bolton, BL2 2LU, argsl*btinternet.com

I would suggest you link up with these guys as they can show you the sites etc

check out www.arguk.org aswell

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Thanks for that when you say they could show me do you mean as in accompany me and take me there ?

Anyone any comments/feedback on my other questions re time of year/day, tips on photographing them and anything else I asked ?

Thanks in advance and thanks again for the reply thus far

J


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Posted: 02 Feb 2008

I think if you search through the forums you will find most of your questions have been answered somewhere already.

 


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Judderman62
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Posted: 02 Feb 2008
Is that what passes as a helpful reply in your book  ? 

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Posted: 03 Feb 2008

OK. Not trying to be unhelpful just saying there is lots of good stuff here you just have to do the searching.

Time of year for adders is generally from Feb. onwards (although someone saw an adder the other week in Jan.). At the other end of the year the time varies with when they disappear to hibernate but October is getting on in their season.

Time of day for best chances of seeing them is very weather/temperature dependent and also the month of the year. Generally speaking a dull cooler day with fleeting sunshine is best for seeing adders lying out as they are trying to warm up. On very hot days they can warm up more quickly and move off to hunt. As the season moves on the ground is warmer and the adders are not starting from cold, as it were, and so bask for a shorter time to get up to speed. I don't find very early in the morning much use but I know others do. 10am on a spring day ought to be a good time to start right up to lunchtime. Walks around teatime on a nice summer day in August often produce adders that are out warming up again.  

A bit of a thing you'll find with adders is that really there are no rules! I have seen many adders lying out in the middle of a scorching hot day when technically they ought to have moved off.

After you've seen a few and had a season or two at it you will know more what to expect. Accompanying someone with experience and an eye for adders will really be a great help and you can then go off and find your own. Good luck.


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Judderman62
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Posted: 03 Feb 2008
Awww thanks for that Suzi 

Much appreciated 

tim hamlett
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Posted: 03 Feb 2008

hi

i reckon suzi's just about covered everything but the following link will take you to the narrs site. they have downloadable reptile survey information packs which have graphics and pictures which i have found really helpful.

http://www.narrs.org.uk/nrspack.htm

cheers

tim

ps i've been a member of this site for just over a year and i can assure you that suzi is one of it's most dedicated and helpful members. it really is good advice to have a trawl through the site... there's absolutely loads of brilliant stuff for beginners and experts alike. good luck and keep everyone informed of your progress...especially when you get your first pictures.


Judderman62
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Posted: 03 Feb 2008
Thank you to you too  
phillip
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Posted: 04 Feb 2008
hey judderman maybe we could get together as im only in liverpool,so not far.
Judderman62
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Posted: 05 Feb 2008
[QUOTE=herpetologic2]

Hi Judderman

I suggest you contact Chris Monk at Derbyshire ARG or David Orchard at the ARG of South Lancasshire (+Greater Manchester)

  • Derbyshire Chris Monk, Derbyshire Amphibian & Reptile Group, Hilburn, Chapel Lane, Middleton, Matlock, Derbyshire DE4 4NF , 01629 823136/01629 580000, chris.monk*derbyshire.gov.uk
  • Lancashire and Greater Manchester David Orchard, Amphibian and Reptile Group of South Lancashire, 106 Thicketford Road, Tonge Moor, Bolton, BL2 2LU, argsl*btinternet.com

I would suggest you link up with these guys as they can show you the sites etc

check out www.arguk.org aswell

 

J

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I emailed Chris Monk 48 hours ago and not heard a thing from him

Maybe he's just away / on hols or somesuch

Might try the other chappy if I hear nothing in a few days

Thanks again

j

Judderman62
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Posted: 25 Feb 2008
Should update I have heard from  Chris and he has been most helpful including to meet up with me at some point when he is doing a survey  

Thanks for pointing me in his direction - much appreciated 

Judderman62
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Posted: 04 Apr 2009
Well last year it didn't happen as my father passed away in March and so I was somewhat busy grieving and dealing with all the aftermath one has to when a family member passes away.

However last Sunday 29 March I did meet up with Chris and we saw 10 adders    I was very, very happy - been so very much wanting to see some since beginning of 2008 and so was fantastic to at least achieve it last week.

Many thanks to Chris for meeting up with me and showing me around - very much appreciated.

Here's one of the pictures I took



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